19-01-2015, 11:47 PM
Hello all,
Thanks in advance if you can offer any advice.
I've been researching for hours why my 2.0 HDi won't start. She's been becoming more sluggish starting for a week with gradually more turns required to fire, last night would turn but not fire, this morning just a click and tonight nothing and nothing with jump leads across from another car.
The battery was at 12.4v tonight so I've put it to charge.
I've learned it's likely to be the solenoid, starter, or issues with power going round the curcuit. The earth from battery to chassis is clean. I tried running an earth from battery to engine block with a jump lead and no difference.
When I last tried to start I did so with the headlights on they didn't dim so from what I've read it seems power isn't reaching the solenoid. But, with the deteriation from sluggish to nothing rather than just straight click or nothing, I'm really unsure.
Q. Does anyone have any experiece to advise on most likely explanation?... It'd be great.
I've read up on tests to do with my multimeter to determine which issue it's likely to be. As far as I understand they're: 1. Voltage drop tests on a)current reaching solenoid connection from battery b) the earth, from body of starter motor to earth on battery. 2.voltage is reaching the solenoid through the ignition wire (s wire I think).
Q Do tests 1 & 2 need the ignition to be disabled in case it starts? (I don't know how to do this if that's so).
Q. Do I need to take the s wire off to test if voltage is reaching the starter there? (As I can't get to it to take it of if I do)
My big problem is I can't get to the starter. I might be able to poke meter probes down to touch the connections but it's not ideal and by Haynes it'd still leave me unable to remove the starter if need be. I read the air cleaner assembly and air intake ducts need to be removed but I just can't find any images or how-tos to show exactly which bits (there seems a lot in the way and Haynes is vague on this.) With no car I can't get anywhere to get axle stands or ramps so to test before I move on to organising help makes sense. Not to mention I don't just want to bumble into trying to replace the starter from underneath as it might be another problem. (I also read someone took it off from below and took the connections off but then couldn't get them back on.)
Q. Does anyone have any pictures or directions showing starter access and removal?
Q. Can it be removed and refitted from underneath alone?
Q. If I removed it from underneath without taking the connections off could I do the tests with it hanging about?
Big thanks on any help.......
(My battery's charged to 13.8v! and reached trickle so I'll let it settle.)
Thanks in advance if you can offer any advice.
I've been researching for hours why my 2.0 HDi won't start. She's been becoming more sluggish starting for a week with gradually more turns required to fire, last night would turn but not fire, this morning just a click and tonight nothing and nothing with jump leads across from another car.
The battery was at 12.4v tonight so I've put it to charge.
I've learned it's likely to be the solenoid, starter, or issues with power going round the curcuit. The earth from battery to chassis is clean. I tried running an earth from battery to engine block with a jump lead and no difference.
When I last tried to start I did so with the headlights on they didn't dim so from what I've read it seems power isn't reaching the solenoid. But, with the deteriation from sluggish to nothing rather than just straight click or nothing, I'm really unsure.
Q. Does anyone have any experiece to advise on most likely explanation?... It'd be great.
I've read up on tests to do with my multimeter to determine which issue it's likely to be. As far as I understand they're: 1. Voltage drop tests on a)current reaching solenoid connection from battery b) the earth, from body of starter motor to earth on battery. 2.voltage is reaching the solenoid through the ignition wire (s wire I think).
Q Do tests 1 & 2 need the ignition to be disabled in case it starts? (I don't know how to do this if that's so).
Q. Do I need to take the s wire off to test if voltage is reaching the starter there? (As I can't get to it to take it of if I do)
My big problem is I can't get to the starter. I might be able to poke meter probes down to touch the connections but it's not ideal and by Haynes it'd still leave me unable to remove the starter if need be. I read the air cleaner assembly and air intake ducts need to be removed but I just can't find any images or how-tos to show exactly which bits (there seems a lot in the way and Haynes is vague on this.) With no car I can't get anywhere to get axle stands or ramps so to test before I move on to organising help makes sense. Not to mention I don't just want to bumble into trying to replace the starter from underneath as it might be another problem. (I also read someone took it off from below and took the connections off but then couldn't get them back on.)
Q. Does anyone have any pictures or directions showing starter access and removal?
Q. Can it be removed and refitted from underneath alone?
Q. If I removed it from underneath without taking the connections off could I do the tests with it hanging about?
Big thanks on any help.......
(My battery's charged to 13.8v! and reached trickle so I'll let it settle.)