Brand new 17" wheel advice please, before i buy.....( Update )
04-06-2016, 07:23 PM
(This post was last modified: 15-08-2016, 08:54 AM by Doodlebug.)
A few months back now, i bought myself a 2014 XTR Multispace, but it is decked out in it's original 15" steal wheels, but running aggressive winter tyres.
Decided to sell the winter tyres on before they wear out.
Hoping to buy from "Rim Style" and going for 17" Momo Revenge with a ET of 25
Can anybody please give some guidance, the web site recommends the tyres as 215/45/17, this is fine, but you are suppose to keep the original diameter within 3% and the recommended size is 3.45% !
Original set up with 215/65 /15 at 62.14mph
215/45/17 actual speed is 64.34 mph (I feel this is to much)
Looking into tyre sizes and really would like to use a 45" depth, a size of 225/45/17 actual speed is 63.43, which is not far out from my original set up.
My main question is, has anybody experience with fitting 225/45/17 without alteration or tyre arch rub ???
ideal tyre size on 17s should be 225/50/17, that would be 0.61% or -4mm overall diameter off your originals.
I run 225/40/18 et27 with no issues at all
I was thinking about doing this, but decided against. The main reasons being that comfort and fuel economy will probably suffer. But I can totally understand anyone wanting to do it, as the 15" steel wheels don't exactly look mean.
I believe that the alloys will require wider tyres (so more drag), and may be heavier (more unsprung weight) and may have more wind resistance. If you have the swirly patterned wheeltrims then, if you look at them they're actually almost flat if you ignore which bits are black or silver. They're quite a clever design actually - they look more sculpted than they are.
You will need to declare it to your insurers too. I asked mine, who only wanted £10 extra per year but this was for Citroen-branded wheels, they may charge more for non-Citroen ones, and any other insurer may charge different amounts.
From the research I did, I think I'm right in saying that among the myriad of tyre sizes available some are common preferred sizes while others are quite rare so can be difficult and/or expensive to get hold of - especially in an emergency.
I'd be very interested to know, if you do go ahead, how it affects ride comfort and fuel economy. On the other hand, it may improve handling and would certainly make it look nicer.
well with mine with genuine citroen 18s I would say a little better handling but a little less comfort and mpg, I use 15s in winter with winter tyres. in my opinion the van looks so much better with 18s than 15s and other people have agreed, my van is slightly modified. 225/40/18 and 225/50/17 are very common size tyres so the price is around the same price as original sizes, I use budget summers and I get nearly new continental winters from Germany. the strange thing is with the known rear wear issues on the berlingo my 18s wear on the inside but the 15 winters wear on the outside
Thanks very much for the feedback "Doofer" & "Finny"
To be honest i never thought of fuel economy and i'm really keen on getting the best MPG as i do a fair share of miles.
I was going for used alloys but been looking now for months and there's not many around that are very good, i am fussy !
Finny, your 225's must be very to to clearance ? every time i mention 225's in 17's or 18's they go into a cold sweat, Rimstyle said today "The 225 comes very close to the outer arch on this vehicle so isn’t optimum for clearance"
Decided anything is got to be better than 15's wheels and will let you know what i decide to get and will post some pictures.....
I've been browsing ebay for about a month. Decent ones do appear, then quickly sell, so keep your eyes peeled.
I won't be bidding against you though - as I say, I decided against.
I don't know why, but tyres seem to get wider as they get lower profile. Do they need to contain a certain volume of air or something?
One other factor is that I had bad experiences of sticking locking wheel bolts on my previous car. I don't think there's a decent solution really - you either under-tighten them or torque them up and potentially have big problems getting them off again. At least I know that nobody's going to bother nicking my 15" steelies so I don't bother. I've seen Audis with a locking centre panel that covers the wheel bolts, which seems like a more sensible way of protecting them.
Just a bit of a update.
In the end i decided on 2nd hand 17" "Resolfen" alloys originally off a C4 and got a set including tyres off eBay for £100, so £25 each.
I decided i liked the look of the "Resolfen's" as i wanted more of a full wheel and not many gaps showing brake discs and calipers.
Wheels are in fair condition but will need a refurbishment, going for Gunmetal or original car colour, as of the tryes, 3 are at the wear limits and one is sale-able, but i knew that and just wanted the alloys, so will get new rubber all around.
2 tyres are : 225-45-17
2 tyres are : 235-45-17
So already i have had a little play to see what they look like with clearence and genral look etc
235's are more in line with original rolling radius, they are fine on the back and ok on the front, but the front clearance is tight'ish
Will update on the final look and colour when they have been refurbished.
225''s / 235's side by side
They look great. Let us know how you go on with the refurb - I was thinking of doing the same, until I got a quote for almost £400 so decided not to bother.
Got the tyres fitted today, so thought it would be rude not to fit the wheels, especially since my Berlingo had been cleaned and polished.
Very happy with the results and glad i went for the gloss finish instead of matt black.
Each wheel refurb cost £60 for a complete strip and paint and it includes a 4 year guarantee.
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