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Crank pulley woes
#1
Managed to swop back the Com2000 last Fri, before my trip up to Sth London later that evening. About 4 miles from my destination, there was a loud bang from the engine bay. Then no power assistance! So I assumed the aux belt had snapped/come off. Decided to limp last bit of journey. Steering very heavy. Don’t think my other half would have been able to drive it like that.

When I looked in the engine bay, sure enough the belt was off, but it looked like the crank pulley had partially broken apart. I now know, it has a shock absorbing rubber inner. I had noticed fine metallic dust around the belt area. In fact last couple of times I cleaned the car, it seemed to have fine dirt on driver’s door and rear door. It was hard to remove. Now looks like this was more of the metal dust.

As I was away from home, I put it into a garage. Cost me £202. I thought that a bit steep, but the pulley was 60 odd + vat, 20 something + vat for the belt. 1.2 hrs labour. So it does stack up. I was ecpecting the pulley to be about a tenner!

Now the thing is, I had the timing belt, water pump and aux belt changed about 3 months ago (10 years, 110k miles). So that garage would have taken the pulley off. Do you think they are in any way to blame for this pulley failing?

If I had known that it is a common thing to fail on the HDi, I might have got them to change it at the time. Then it should have only cost me the price of the pulley.

Looking back, there was a strange sound from that end of the engine just after the timing belt change. Sounded like a rattle, like a cover not been done up properly. I didn’t take it back to them though, as thought it might be my imagination.

Anyway the upshot is, if you have the HDi (mine’s the 2.0) and its due a timing belt change (100k miles), consider changing the pulley at the same time. At least check for this dust.

Also, are there any other “known problems” I need to be on the look out for ???
   


Here' a pic of the outer part of the pulley. I think part of the pulley was lost on the road.
   

And another showing what looks like wear on one of the tensioner pulleys. Guess it was this that the crank pulley was rubbing against ?!
   
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#2
I dont think you can hold the garage responsible, the crank pulleys can fail at any time, and luckily you didnt suffer more issues. Maybe the garage could be unaware that the pulleys fail, so would not have noticed any issues, because they didnt look.
£202 is very steep for the job, in-fact £72 more than I charge for the same job.
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(05-02-2013, 08:26 PM)Lighty Wrote:  I dont think you can hold the garage responsible, the crank pulleys can fail at any time, and luckily you didnt suffer more issues. Maybe the garage could be unaware that the pulleys fail, so would not have noticed any issues, because they didnt look.
£202 is very steep for the job, in-fact £72 more than I charge for the same job.
Just such a coincidence that dust appears soon after timing belt job. Pulley must have been affected by being taken off. Not saying that's the garages fault. Do you recommend the pulley is replaced when the timing belt is changed (100k)? My brother's got a Bingo, 2.0HDi but without air con (too tight to pay extra for it), but only on 60k miles. Think he should get pulley done when timing belt changed.
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#4
The damping pulley should not be damaged in removal - it's held on by a centre bolt and then slides off a keyway.

Good practice is to replace bonded dampers whenever a timing belt is done, and to make an obvious match mark across the bonding upon fitment.

A frequent giveaway of a failing pulley, is a screech upon cold startup.
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#5
You don't need to remove the crank pully to replace the aux belt. I noticed a metallic rattle for a few weeks that steadily got worse, on inspection it was the damped pully on its last legs, I think it cost around £170 with new belt and labour of 1 hour. I reckon I was raped with the price of the pulley.
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#6
Yes it is a good idea to check the pulley at cambelt time, I wouldn't advocate replacement as a matter of course, due to the cost.
Some pulleys last years and years, whereas others have failed in months.
I also know there is a massive difference in replacement qualities.
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#7
They're a part which is comparatively affordable here in aftermarket brands, vs the failure issue as demonstrated here by the OP is (to me) it is a good way to CYA.
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#8
As mentioned previously, I had mine replaced with one of these at cambelt change:-

http://www.lynxpowerengineering.co.uk/engineering.aspx

Cost me £90, so about twice the price of a PSA replacement, but it won't break or need replacing next time
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(06-02-2013, 06:30 PM)Coco Wrote:  As mentioned previously, I had mine replaced with one of these at cambelt change:-

http://www.lynxpowerengineering.co.uk/engineering.aspx

Cost me £90, so about twice the price of a PSA replacement, but it won't break or need replacing next time

Looks like Lynx does nice stuff. Anyone know of any options such as these, but for the 1.9d DW8?

I like the idea of using a better-quality part for this, since my pulley seems to be wearing out my belts too fast (8 months), and I have noticed that the hot climate in Israel destroys rubber parts quickly (or pollution, or whatever, rubber parts get messed up).

So, maybe with crucial parts like this, better metals and less rubber is a good thing?
[Image: 177657.png]   2004 1.9D DW8 WJY with black spray paint on wheels instead of flimsy plastic wheel covers.
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